GAC Motor shows off battery with silicon anode fast charging

GAC Motor testing 3C charging
GAC Motor testing 3C charging
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Marcel
29 days ago

wow, this is really encouraging that they’re testing this tech now in EVs, rather than in a lab. It makes me think that it’s commercially viable soon. Did I read the charging screen in the video correctly? was it really running at over 500Amps?

“Imagine a Renault ZOE with a 70 kWh battery that can fast charge at 210 kW in under 20 minutes.”

Yes, super fast charging 70kwh LFP batteries in small to mid size vehicles will spell the end of the ICE age.

The only data points I’d like to see are how much do these silicon anodes affect the price of the batteries (is the material expensive or hard to manufacture)? And what is the cycle life of GAC’s version of the silicon anodes?

Marcel
28 days ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

Thanks for the link. Looks interesting. It’ll be very interesting to see which anode technology wins out. For example, this Swedish research sounds interesting, but is the silicon’s resiliency just a matter of particle size? I don’t really know much about it, but I would guess that some of these technologies have technical roadblocks to achieving acceptable cycle life. Such as a scenario where the silicon needs to be mixed with some compound to keep it more stable, but that compound won’t work in an aerogel.

HOwever, I think you’re right that Chinese automakers wouldn’t be demonstrating them in a vehicle if it wasn’t close to cost competitive mass production and cycle life.

Andrés
29 days ago

Con esta tecnología sin lugar a dudas es la muerte de los ICE como bien dice Pedro Lima si los legisladores quieren claro……Sin embargo me gustaría saber todos los datos técnicos de las celdas entre ellos el ciclo de vida y las tasas de Carga-Descarga a la que se consiguen esos ciclos. Pero claro como siempre obtener estos datos es tarea imposible. He indagado un poco y de momento con resultado negativo.

Maximilian Holland
29 days ago

Great development. 10-80% in under 15 minutes is a new record, and great, assuming that the cycle life is decent. Do they give any hard data for Wh/kg (or Wh/l) at the pack level?

Agem
29 days ago

Great news & delighted to see it, but we might have a “Bump in the road”
Lithium shortage may unplug electric car revolution (msn.com)

Maximilian Holland
27 days ago
Reply to  Agem

Maybe, maybe not… some anxiety (and FUD) about lithium supply is probably a good way to get the big auto makers to pay more attention to forward looking investments.

Agem
28 days ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

Goverment of China said they want to see 400 wh/kg by 2025 & 500 by 2030

Maximilian Holland
27 days ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

Those are already very decent at the cell level, thanks Pedro.

Maximilian Holland
27 days ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

Great, thanks.

Famlin
28 days ago

0-80% in 16 minutes is impressive.
Prismatic vs cylindrical
NCx vs LFP
Graphite vs silicon

its a competition on multiple fronts.
toyota will still insist that refueling with hydrogen will take only 8 minutes, grudgingly they are revealing bev with 0 interest in selling them. but they sell a whole lot of fhev (full hybrids) and are making lot of money. their next move is on phev (plugin hybrids). at least they do this, honda does not even go into fhev/phev.

Maximilian Holland
27 days ago
Reply to  Famlin

Yeah, the problem for anything other than BEV is that you cannot make 80% to 90% of your refills “for no extra effort” when parked for a few hours at home or work or similar. No highly flammable substance will ever be able to compete with that.

Paul Kageler
28 days ago

Exciting LIB news announcement. If acceptable life-cycle and cost effective at scale, the sponge silicone technology will be utilized by most major LIB cell producers once anode material producers achieve mass production. It will be interesting to see what CATL does.

Leo B
27 days ago

Isn’t the Hyundai Ioniq 5 / Kia EV6 also charging at 3C?
(10-80% in 18 minutes / 72,6 kWh battery average charging speed 170 kW, 58 kWh battery 135 kW / so top charging speed 2,5 to 3C??).

In a previous announcement GAC was already talking about 6C for 2023/4, based on the 900V Chaojie protocol.

Alok
26 days ago

Hey, to me it seems that their superfast charging technology is a different one from the silicon electrode.
https://www.gac-motor.com/Home/News/content/id/175
They were listing different technologies.
Also, two different videos on their YT Channel about these two technologies, with no reference to the other’s features in each video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZeEXnSAxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6m6U_EJSk

Maybe the superfast charging is related to the graphene battery they are developing ?
They seemed to have announced a 8 min 80% charging time for that one, in January, as coming already in the Aion V to be produced from September 2021, but maybe they had to adjust it a bit, and the 8 min – 6C version will come later, as mentioned in the comment above by Leo B (2023-24) ?
https://www.gac-motor.com/Home/News/content/id/166

Anyway, great news !

antrik
16 days ago
Reply to  Agem

Current Li-S cells don’t have sufficient cycle lifes for use in cars.

(Also, they have relatively low volumetric density…)

Conor
25 days ago

Incredible to remember that the Zoe Q90 was technically a 2C car. But really only technically.

Rodri
25 days ago

Great to see this developments. Hopefully go into production cars soon. Technically nothing stops the BEV to completely overcome ICE. And this is also good news for energy intensive vehicles like vans, trucks and machinery.