Farasis Energy reaches 330 Wh/kg with new battery cell

Farasis Energy goals for electric cars
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sola
1 month ago

Impressive specs.

If it can also compete on price / kWh, we may have a real winner here.

However, the single-wall nanotube stuff sounds like high production costs for the cell.

Andrés
1 month ago
Reply to  sola

¿Alguién sabe a que tasa de carga y descarga se han conseguido esos 1500 ciclos? . He buscado estos datos por todos sitios incluido la propia página de Farasis y nada de nada. De nada sirven esos 1.500 ciclos si son a 0,1C/0, 1C.

Rok
1 month ago
Reply to  Andrés

Probably under normal conditions without heavy use of fast charging. It would be silly to achieve 1500 cycles with 0,1C and try to sell it to OEMs. No one would buy that on the west.

Famlin
1 month ago

Wow, 330 Wh/kg is a lot, however at the pack level its 220 Wh/kg is 30% lesser.
Will the structural battery reduce this loss.

Meanwhile BYD has narrowed to LFP as standard. And share of LFP has increased by 4.1% to 38.3% in 2020 while that of NCx has gone down to 61.4%. Last year, Wuling MiniEV and BYD Han went on sale only in H2 while Tesla Model 3 Standard in Q4. This year with full year sale, it will increase by another 5-6 %age points which means by end of 2022, there will be 50:50 share. Rise of LFP will also help lower the battery price to $100 / KWh threshold.

https://cleantechnica.com/2021/04/10/byd-targets-low-middle-income-drivers-goes-all-in-on-lfp-battery-technology/

Buutvrij
1 month ago

Wow. If this is true and it sure looks like it, then any new ICE in a few years time will be death on arrival. Bought a 2015 Zero DS 5 years ago wich had farasis cells in it. Good stuff, no problems. A Farasis engineer came to the electric motorcycleforum/Zero section to tell us a lot of stuff without revealing the secret sauce :)).. this news is exiting!

Rok
1 month ago

Pedro, would it be safe to assume that some OEMs are already designing their new EVs coming out in the end of 2021 or 2022 around those new developments in battery tech?

Agem
1 month ago
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Paul Kageler
1 month ago

Thanks for information on high performance LIB. I always wondered where Zero Motorcycle got their cells. Zero Motorcycle LIB maybe in Polaris Ranger UTV next year. Great news for motorsports, adventure seeks, ranchers, farmers, etc. Noticed Mercedes EQS will have the CATL 811 batteries and GM the LG Ultium high nickel NCMA batteries. Little doubt the soon to be commercialized Tesla high nickel battery will provide a high energy density. Will be interesting to see if Farasis eventually sales their state-of-the-art LIB to a major European EV manufacture.

Maximilian Holland
1 month ago

Great news, and impressive cycle life.

val
1 month ago

well my zero 2014 sr had 280 w / kg
pack 11,4 kwh at 60 kg and for now still not remarkable loss after 500 cycles 😅

Stephane Cnockaert
20 days ago

Dear Pedro, 330 Wh/kg along with 1,500 cycles and a “4.0 C” continuous discharge rate allow virtuous PHEVs storing 25 kWh, cycling 2,000 times 20 kWh allowing a 65 miles EV range (50 miles on freeway at a 80 mph speed). A 130,000 miles battery durability in BEV mode could be advertised. Driving the virtuous PHEV in BEV mode results in driving a car weighing no more than 1,450 kilogram that’s earning 5 Euro NCAP stars, coming equipped with a battery that’s capable of continuously delivering a 100 kW power. Kind of MG5 EV. Not sporty, however fast enough.

Now comes the question. What is a “virtuous PHEV”?

Could you please tell if massively producing Ethanol, then electroxyding such Ethanol inside the car for continuously producing a 30 kW electric power, could materialize as virtuous cycle, someday? Please realize that in case the 30 kW Ethanol electroxyder is featuring a 1,000 hours service life while cruising at a 75 mph speed, that 75,000 miles could be done without wearing the 25 kWh battery.

This way, the virtuous PHEV could be advertised as being covered by a 150,000 miles warranty.

The virtuous PHEV could recharge electricity at home or at the office, using a handsfree modality, same as a robotized lawnmower. The handsfree modality shall apply when using a 220 VAC single phase 16 amps, 3.5 kW power outlet. This allows seamlessly recharging up to 21 kWh overnight. Cameras permanently hooked to the 3.5 kW outlet shall tell the car, using Bluetooth or WiFi, what moves to do for precisely establishing the required 220 VAC 3.5 kW galvanic connexion.

The virtuous PHEV could also refuel Ethanol in 3 minutes in every petrol station for gaining a 200 miles range. A 60 liters tank containing a Ethanol + Water mix may provide a 200 miles range on freeway, at a 80 mph speed.

Time has come to define, assess and eventually promote “virtuous Ethanol PHEVs”.

The Fraunhofer Institute is currently selling a high-speed fully robotized factory that’s producing elementary hydrogen fuel cells, that one must group for building a stack that’s delivering a 30 kW sustained electric power. Such stacks are now gold-free and platinum-free.

Given that Ethanol doesn’t release its Hydrogen ions for free, there is a lot of energy wasted in the Ethanol electroxydation process. Possibly the electroxydation may be regarded as “virtuous” in case the energy that’s wasted by the Hydrogen ions stripping process, is coming from “free” or “surplus” solar heat and coming from “free” or “surplus” photovoltaic electricity. For becoming “virtuous”, one is obliged to couple the Ethanol electroxydation to a quasi-permanent CO2 sequestration process. Are there practical realizations?

Have a nice day, Pedro