Xpeng P7 gets a cobalt-free LFP battery

Xpeng P7 gets a cobalt-free LFP battery
Xpeng P7

On February 3, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) of China released the “Announcement on Road Motor Vehicle Manufacturers and Products” (batch 341) with a total of 136 models from 75 companies.

 

Most of the new homologated electric vehicles were full electric as you can see from the list below.

 

  • BEV: 124 models from 65 companies
  • PHEV: 1 model from 1 company
  • FCEV: 11 models from 9 companies
  • Total: 136 models from 75 companies

 

It’s clear that plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEV) are dead in China and fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEV) aren’t a viable alternative to battery electric vehicles (BEV) either.

Moreover, it’s mind-boggling that most legacy automakers in Europe and North America are still wasting resources in developing hybrid cars. Instead, they should be preparing to produce all-electric cars in high numbers by taking advantage of – already available – cobalt-free batteries.

 

Anyway, the most interesting electric car in this publication is definitely the Xpeng P7, now homologated with a cobalt-free LFP battery made by CATL. Remember that recently the Xpeng G3 also got a cobalt-free battery made by CATL.

 

 

Xpeng P7 specs (LFP version)

  • Length: 4.880 mm
  • Wheelbase: 2.998 mm
  • Width: 1.896 mm
  • Height: 1.450 mm
  • Total weight: 2.965 kg
  • Curb weight: 1.895/1.920 kg
  • Motor: 80 kW (rated) and 196 kW (peak)
  • Maximum speed: 170 km/h
  • Model code: NHQ7000BEVEE

 

Unfortunately, range and battery capacity in this LFP version aren’t known yet, but I’ll update the article when I have more information.

 

Anyway, the Xpeng G3 is already on sale in Norway and soon it will be joined by the P7.

Nowadays I don’t even bother much with announcements of electric cars that still have cobalt in their batteries, since they won’t be produced in high numbers. If you want to know how serious an automaker is about electric cars, check the battery technology they use.

While NIO and Li Auto are the Chinese automakers currently getting most of the media’s attention, I think that is BYD and Xpeng the ones with the best potential to grow. They have more efficient/aerodynamic electric cars and know the importance of cobalt-free batteries to achieve high volume production.

 

 

More info:

https://www.d1ev.com/carnews/xinche/137576

https://www.d1ev.com/news/shichang/137615

https://en.xiaopeng.com/p7.html

Pedro Lima

My interest in electric transportation is mostly political. I’m tired of coups and wars for oil. My expectation is that the adoption of electric transportation will be a factor for peace and democracy all over the world.
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coyotte
coyotte
19 days ago

70.8 kWh – NEDC range 586 km
https://en.xiaopeng.com/p7/configuration.html

coyotte
coyotte
19 days ago
Reply to  coyotte

and 80.9 kWh – 670km in “super long range version” – in LFP as well, I guess

Pedro Lima
Pedro Lima
19 days ago
Reply to  coyotte

Hi.

Those figures are for the Ternary Lithium Battery PackΒ (NCM 811). The LFP packs should have different capacities.

Marko T
Marko T
19 days ago

Pedro, just to let you know. It seems that you have mixed total weight with wheelbase 2998mm.

Pedro Lima
Pedro Lima
19 days ago
Reply to  Marko T

Thanks, you’re right! I got those figures from Moneyball’s tweet.

Freddy
Freddy
19 days ago

The P7 for me is the most beautiful car of Xpeng lineup… I don’t like SUV’s that much….

Let’s just see when it gets to Europe what wil be:
– The charging port (CCS Pleeeeaaassseee)
– The Cost of it

Pedro Lima
Pedro Lima
19 days ago
Reply to  Freddy

Definitely beautiful, but maybe too big for most Europeans.

Ideally, to be really successful in Europe Xpeng needs a smaller electric car. Something between a Volkswagen ID.3 and a Renault ZOE.

Freddy
Freddy
19 days ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

I have to check it in real to assess this… but I already have a 18′ 40kwh leaf…. It would be nice to have a bigger car for longer trips…. currently have a 370KKms 2000 Megane Estate 1.9DTI and it is really in the end-of-life, namely interior plastics/cloths and lower safety features… Just hanging it on until the right car arrives… Might consider trading the Leaf for a smaller A/B class car and buy a D class also…who knows…

Leo B
Leo B
19 days ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

There’re working on a smaller sedan, probably Model 3-size:

http://autonews.gasgoo.com/china_news/70017888.html

Pedro Lima
Pedro Lima
19 days ago
Reply to  Leo B

Thanks Leo.

Freddy
Freddy
16 days ago
Reply to  Leo B

this might be mre European sized vehicle… the P7 is somewhere between Model 3 and S as far as I am aware…

yoyo
yoyo
18 days ago

Hi Pedro…

Don’t know if you have seen this one yet…
Low price with high efficiency and no ridiculous horse power shredding your tires…
Because replacing your tires every 10k miles is not exactly green…
Hopefully it can come to the EU and US πŸ™‚

https://twitter.com/TaylorOgan/status/1357723776826421251

“The application plan for the BYD Qin PLUS pure electric version was just revealed by (MIIT). It is suspected this car will be the most efficient EV ever made, by far. It is expected to be priced significantly lower than MIC Model 3. People are calling it the “Baby Han”.”

“MIC Tesla Model 3 starts at $38,650 USD, with a range of 291mi. #BYD Qin PLUS EV expected to start at $15,460 USD, with a range of over 270mi. NEDC rated range for both.”

“The car will have a TZ200XSK motor with a maximum power output of 135kW, and of course, have Blade battery. Lots of options, too. Game on.”

Pedro Lima
Pedro Lima
18 days ago
Reply to  yoyo

Hi yoyo, thanks for sharing the link.

Hopefully during this year BYD will put Blade batteries in all its electric cars.

I think that the smaller hatchback BYD e2 has the best dimensions to become a world-wide success.

Famlin
Famlin
15 days ago

Nowadays I don’t even bother much with announcements of electric cars that still have cobalt in their batteries,”

Please bother to announce electric vehicles with cobalt batteries also.
Our objectives are getting rid of

  1. Diesel vehicles
  2. Petrol vehicles
  3. LPG vehicles

So even electric vehicles with cobalt batteries are still far better than those 3 I mentioned above since they go 3 times the distance on energy basis.

Pedro Lima
Pedro Lima
15 days ago
Reply to  Famlin

Hi Famlin.

Electric vehicles need cobalt-free batteries to be produced in high numbers and become mainstream, otherwise they’ll remain a small niche.

Fortunately, almost all electric buses are already made with cobalt-free batteries.

Moreover, now that Tesla is also adopting cobalt-free batteries for its most affordable model, other automakers will soon follow its example.

Famlin
Famlin
15 days ago

the LFP champion: Here is a news for you.

LFP is becoming more popular because of subsidy cuts. Seems this chemistry is good in price point of view and also safety and longevity. This year could see more intensive competition between LFP and NCX.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-08/cheaper-battery-clamor-in-china-is-sending-one-chemical-soaring

Pedro Lima
Pedro Lima
15 days ago
Reply to  Famlin

Thanks for the interesting link Famlin.

LFP will surpass NCM anytime soon, probably early next year.

I think that what makes sense now, it’s for every electric car model have two battery options. One cheap cobalt-free battery that is standard and another more energy dense battery – with rare raw materials – for a higher price.

Probably, this is what Volkswagen will do in its ID. brand with the introduction of Guoxuan cells. Renault also seems aiming to make LFP the standard chemistry for its batteries, but will probably use CATL or BYD cells.

Bob
Bob
14 days ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

Out of curiosity Pedro, what makes you believe Renault is heading towards LFP as their standard? I must have missed something.

Pedro Lima
Pedro Lima
14 days ago
Reply to  Bob

Luca de Meo at Renaulution conference:

https://youtu.be/dvyDiWSUk8A?t=1215

Rodri
Rodri
12 days ago

If you donΒ΄t get your electricity from a renewable-only utility, you are funding dirty coal, gas and nuclear. The same way, if you buy a car from a PHEV manufacturer, even if it is an EV, you are, maybe in a small part but still, funding development of dirty cars. Just a thought and aware of other variables to consider like local jobs…

MarkZC
MarkZC
9 days ago
Reply to  Rodri

Why tie nuclear in with dirty coal & gas? 4th generation nuclear and fast neutron reactors will be highly efficient, producing far less waste. They can also burn up legacy waste. China is investing heavily in nuclear because no amount of wind and solar PV can substitute for baseload if reducing carbon generated energy.

Rodri
Rodri
5 days ago
Reply to  MarkZC

Nuclear is the dirtiest: uranium mining is terrible and then take care of nuclear waste for thousands of years. In the event of a serious accident or terrorist attack, well, forget about cleaning as it is impossible. Renewables have been in use for decades and it is proven, reliable tech. 4th gen nuclear is today just an illusion. Baseload is a term in use because nuclear, coal and gas are not designed to be stopped frequently. You donΒ΄t need baseload. Batteries can provide you with grid stability while renewables are better at dealing with unexpected or extreme changes in demand. Also a decentralized renewable generation model provides a more robust grid.

MarkZC
MarkZC
4 days ago
Reply to  Rodri

Show the evidence that batteries can provide grid stability, now that is an illusion. You just need to view Gridwatch to see the supply mix and renewables main contribution is from wind which varies enormously. The proposal to develop a massive wind farm off the east coast of Yorkshire has raised environmental concerns as to its potential to devastate the sea bird population. Not all renewables are eco-friendly.