Xpeng G3 gets a cobalt-free LFP battery

Xpeng G3
Xpeng G3

The MIIT (Ministry of Industry and Information Technology) of the Chinese government just released the 339th batch of “Road Motor Vehicle Manufacturers and Products Announcement”.

We already have a draft with some information to discuss, but the final document will be released on December 15. Only then I can update the article with more details.

 

Now let’s see the information available on this already released draft.

 

  • BEV: 168 models from 86 companies
  • PHEV: 22 models from 14 companies
  • FCEV: 27 models from X companies
  • Total: 217 models from 102 companies

 

The most interesting electric car in this publication is definitely the Xpeng G3, now homologated with a cobalt-free LFP battery made by CATL.

 

Xpeng G3 specs (LFP version)

  • Length: 4.450 mm
  • Wheelbase: 2.625 mm
  • Width: 1.820 mm
  • Height: 1.610 mm or 1.678 mm (with optional roof camera)
  • Total weight: 2.040 kg
  • Curb weight: 1.657 kg
  • Motor: 68 kW (rated) and 145 kW (peak)
  • Maximum speed: 170 km/h
  • Tire specifications: 215/55 R17

 

Unfortunately, range and battery capacity in this LFP version aren’t known yet, but I’ll update the article when I have more information.

Remember that the Xpeng G3 is already on sale in Norway with a 66 kWh NCM 811 battery from CATL, a WLTP range of 451 km and a starting price of 358.000 NOK (33.759 euros).

 

Xpeng G3 units exported to Norway

Xpeng G3 units exported to Norway

 

Anyway, I really like the sleek design of the Xpeng G3 and now with a LFP battery it’ll be a serious alternative to Tesla electric cars. If the Xpeng G3 and the BYD Han EV start arriving to Europe in high numbers, Tesla suddenly gets tough competition.

Nowadays I don’t even bother much with announcements of electric cars that still have cobalt in their batteries, since they won’t be produced in high numbers. If you want to know how serious an automaker is about electric cars, check the battery technology they use.

 

 

More info:

https://www.miit.gov.cn/gzcy/yjzj/art/2020/art_c4925d62ead44691bea656573d0f9c61.html

https://www.miit.gov.cn/datainfo/cpgg/xcpgs/art/2020/art_55db5e3cd0da4c88b2242ae4b6f4fe7a.html

https://www.xpeng.no/g3.html

https://en.xiaopeng.com/g3.html

https://technode.com/2020/08/13/xpeng-li-auto-face-quality-concerns-after-car-fires/

Pedro Lima

My interest in electric transportation is mostly political. I’m tired of coups and wars for oil. My expectation is that the adoption of electric transportation will be a factor for peace and democracy all over the world.

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Jozef
6 months ago

Hi Pedro, I would really love to see more LFP battery cars on the roads Once they are cheaper and have similar performance. And here comes an issue. It seems they have worse performance in the cold weather. What is your opinion to TM3 LFP issue?

antrik
6 months ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

State of charge estimation doesn’t use voltage as the main input in any “smart” battery.

And as for thermal management: unless you can pre-heat while plugged in, heating the battery means significant range loss.

Luis Oliveira
6 months ago

What about NIO? Do they have cobalt free batteries as well?

Luis Oliveira
6 months ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

Thanks 🙂

Marcel
6 months ago

If XPeng is situated to rapidly increase production rates, then yes, they could start competing. (I can’t remember their factory situation)

Could we speculate about the battery capacity of the LFP version? If LFP cells are about 25% less dense, then the LFP pack might end up around 50kwh with a range around 330km WLTP. However, that’s assuming they NCM 811 66kwh pack doesn’t have any extra space in it, and it’s entirely possible they decided on 66kwh based on cell pricing, rather than on how many 811 cells the could fit in the pack. So it’s possible the LFP pack could be 55 or even 60 kwh.

Which would be impressive and competitive, especially if they can lower the price with the LFP batteries.

Leo B
5 months ago
Reply to  Marcel

At the introduction of the G3 Xpeng did not have a production qualification, so the cars are contract manufactured by Haima (a small car manufacturer with relations to state-owned FAW).

Last year Xpeng acquired Fudi (Foday). Fudi is mainly a components manufacturer for many Chinese brands, but also builds a small line of pickups under its own brand.

The P7 is manufactured in Xpeng’s own, new factory under the Fudi production licence.

Xpeng has started construction of a second factory.

Marcel
5 months ago
Reply to  Leo B

Thanks for the info Leo. If I’m understanding this correctly, it seems like right now XPeng is situated to manufacture decent amounts of its vehicles, but we still don’t know if they’ll be able to expand rapidly if their products become popular?

yoyo
6 months ago

It would be great if western auto makers were nimble enough and correctly negotiated their battery supply contracts in the first place to allow them to switch to LFP batteries…
I would love for my Chevy Bolt to have a blade battery but GM would only switch to their own Ultium in 4 or 5 years maybe when it reaches they reach the price LFP batteries are at today…
Too much politics and egos in US auto to be nimble or to do blatant things that make fiscal sense…
I shake my head at some of the more expensive design choices they made on the Bolt that are irrelevant to most buyers who simply want a commuter car and the Bolt just so happens to be the best one at that job in the US…
Cant wait for the Chinese BEVs to come to the US so they will force the hands of US auto to do what they already should be doing…
Very much agree that BEVs should be switching to LFP in mass…
Aside from being cheaper their long life cycle makes them multiple times greener than non LFP batteries…

antrik
6 months ago
Reply to  yoyo

LFP having longer life is pretty much a myth at this point.

yoyo
6 months ago
Reply to  antrik

“The Blade Battery has a life cycle of 8 years or 1.2 million km”

https://insideevs.com/news/408757/byd-strategy-rule-ev-world/

How many km does Tesla… umm Panasonic claim their battery lasts or LG or SK or ??

CATL makes similar or even bigger claims with their LFP batteries if I remember…

antrik
3 months ago
Reply to  yoyo

CATL makes similar claims for their nickel-based batteries. If you look at the actual cycle lives of high-capacity automotive LFP cells and automotive NMC cells, they are generally very similar. In fact modern nickel-based cells with single-crystal cathodes can last a lot longer than that, as Dahn’s research has shown.

antrik
6 months ago

Dumb take. Use of LFP batteries will suddenly make it a Tesla alternative when it wasn’t before… Yeah right.