SEAT Mii electric is coming

SEAT Mii electric

SEAT chosen Oslo in Norway to finally confirm that the Mii electric will be its first electric car. It will be available before the all-electric SEAT el-Born, which was having all the media attention.

 

Let’s see some highlights of the press release.

 

Considered the electric vehicle capital of Europe, Oslo will be the first stop of this inaugural ‘SEAT on Tour’ roadshow where the company will present the Mii electric. The new e-model will enter the market by the end of the year and it will be one of the most affordable electric vehicles offered. Pre-sales of the SEAT Mii electric for customers will be starting in September.

Completing the range of novelties, Norwegians will get a first hand look at the SEAT el-Born, the first all-electric SEAT vehicle based on the Volkswagen Group’s MEB platform, and the second Group car to be built on it.

 

SEAT Mii electric

 

  • SEAT Mii electric is the first electric vehicle from the brand, laying the groundwork for more to join the family in the future
  • Mii electric is the ideal vehicle for the city, mixing dynamic performance with practicality and a range of 260km* (WLTP)
  • SEAT’s first all-electric car makes the technology affordable, with purchase costs on the same level as an internal combustion engine vehicle and low cost of ownership
  • Pre-sales of Mii electric will start in September

 

It’s no surprise that the SEAT Mii electric will share the same powertrain with its siblings, ŠKODA CITIGOe iV and Volkswagen e-up 2.0.

 

Technical data

Motor:

Max. power 61kW (83PS)

Max. torque 212Nm

Battery:

Lithium-ion

Capacity 36.8kWh

Charge time at AC 7.2kW to 80%, ~4 hours

Charge time at DC 40kW to 80%, ~1 hour

Range:

260km* (WLTP)

Performance:

Acceleration, 0-50km/h in 3.9 seconds

Top speed 130km/h

Dimensions:

Length: 3,557mm

Width: 1,645mm

Height: 1,478mm

Wheelbase: 2,420mm

Boot capacity:

250 litres (up to 923litres with rear seats folded)

 

Now that many European cities are banning dirty cars to improve air quality, this electric city car seems the perfect candidate to takeover. It’s a shame that Renault is taking so long to release the Twingo ZE, which has been postponed time after time since 2014.

 

Thanks to its compact dimensions, the Mii electric offers great agility while driving in the city and while parking. The Mii electric has been designed to meet the demands of modern driving, whether you are traversing the bustling streets of the inner city or navigating through suburbia, taking up the mantle from the combustion engine Mii when production of that vehicle ends in July 2019.

The move to an exclusively all-electric powertrain, opens the doors to a driving experience that fits more naturally with the city car’s environment.

 

This is the kind of news that I like to read, the ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) variants will no longer be produced. The VW triplets will only be available as electrics.

 

SEAT Mii electric

 

When the Mii electric enters its key markets – Germany, Netherlands, Norway, France, Spain, Austria, UK, Switzerland, Italy, Belgium, Denmark, Finland and Sweden – it will be one of the most affordable electric vehicle. Costing the same as an equivalent combustion engine vehicle in the segment, but with significantly lower total cost of ownership – battery electric vehicles require less maintanence – the city EV will revolutionise customer perceptions of the alternative powertrain technology. In order to make customer’s life easier, SEAT will also offer charging options such as the installation of a SEAT Wallbox.

SEAT Mii electric production will begin in Bratislava (Slovakia) in Q4 2019, with a market introduction starting from the very end of the year. The reveal of the car took place today in Oslo, during the brand’s SEAT On Tour event.

Pre-sales of the SEAT Mii electric for the customers will start in September.

 

SEAT Mii electric

 

I’m very pleased that VW finally confirmed that the triplets will only be available as all-electric cars. In 2018 Volkswagen sold 97.366 units of the Up, SKODA sold 36.450 units of the Citigo and SEAT sold 13.031 units of the Mii. In total, 146.847 units of the VW ICE triplets were sold last year, I’m curious to see how many electric triplets will VW manage to sell in 2020.

 

While SKODA said its CITIGOe iV will cost “well below under 20.000 euros”, SEAT says that the Mii electric will cost “the same as an equivalent combustion engine vehicle in the segment”. Considering that the VW ICE triplets cost around 10.000 euros, how much do you think the electric variants will cost?

Moreover, starting 2020/2021, VW and other automakers have to sell a lot more electric cars or give money to competitors like Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCA) is doing with Tesla in order to avoid paying huge emissions fines to the EU. It’s reasonable for VW to sell these small electric cars with little profit and not only avoid fines, but also recover some lost reputation from the emission scandal.

For these reasons, I’ll be disappointed if the VW electric triplets cost a lot more than 15.000 euros.

 

 

More info:

https://www.seat-mediacenter.com/newspage/allnews/modelrange/2019/SEAT-recharges-city-driving-with-the-Mii-electric.html

https://www.seat-mediacenter.com/newspage/allnews/company/2019/SEAT-begins-its-electric-offensive-by-introducing-the-Mii-Electric-on-its-inaugural-SEAT-on-Tour.html

https://www.seat.es/coches/mii-electrico/modelo.html

This Post Has 21 Comments

  1. What does “Costing the same as an equivalent combustion engine vehicle in the segment” mean? I would expect that equivalent woud mean the same, considering equipment, what equipment are they putting in that it can cost twice as much as the ICE version?

    1. You’re right. I’ll be disappointed if the VW electric triplets cost a lot more than 15.000 euros.

      1. That makes no sense. 15k minus subsidies would be less than 10k in many countries. They would not be able to scale to such demand. They should price around 20k, then reduce price when demand is reduced (subsidies will be reduced).

  2. not even china has a car with 36 kwh for 15000€.

    well when living in NRW and having a buisness you could get 8000€ discount…

    1. BYD from China has VW beat in the pricing Dept and they will probably be the first legacy auto maker (a small Chinese one but sitll good) to fully drop ICE and go to BEV…

      On a side note VW looks like they will be the first company to finish step 3 of Tesla’s origiinal master plan of delivering an affordable high volume BEV to everyone outside ot China (BYD has them beat there) and with the ID and UP they should certianly be close if they produce in numbers… And have the batteries…
      https://www.tesla.com/blog/master-plan-part-deux

      Just sad that Americans drive redioucsly large trucks and suvs so we may never see any vehicles like this…

  3. 15000 € is probably to low. VW group could maybe make profit but they have many factors to think of when pricing.
    They need to sell enough low emission cars to avoid fines from EU
    They can’t sell the BEV cars to cheap because that will hurt the ICE sales to much
    They have to be competitive to other brands and the competition is in my opinion very small now
    How much can they produce
    There is probably a couple of more factors and the the economics att WV probably have a equation that they adjust every day and at the moment I think the equation gives them a higher price tag then 15000 € for a Citigo or a Mii.

    1. The 5-door ICE SKODA Citigo is sold with profit for 8.190 € (209.900 CZK) in its domestic market.

      http://www.skoda-auto.cz/modely/citigo/citigo-5d

      The electric version is much simpler to build, therefore requires less machines, energy and workers, VW already admitted this. Moreover, the tiny 36,8 kWh battery should cost VW less than 4.000 euros in 2020.

      https://pushevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/battery-costs-roadmap-by-volkswagen.png.webp

      Legacy automakers brainwashed us for too long, they told us that electric cars are inevitably expensive to build, this way they convinced politicians to delay stricter emissions policies. They also said that diesel was great and clean…

      1. yes, even if the battery costs double that much at 8000 euros, they could still profitably sell the whole car for 17.000 Euros. But they are probably figuring that at 20K euros, they will still sell all of them, as there will be enough demand to meet that production level, and they will maximize their profits. And as Linus said, if they sell a BEV too cheaply, it’ll hurt ICE demand, so my guess is most legacy OEMs won’t drop the prices until they’re ready to go fully BEV, and have the battery supply locked up.

      2. Yes Linus and Marcel you are both correct that automakers are afraid to hurt ICE demand, that’s why the best news in all this is that the ICE VW triplets will cease to exist.
        The VW A-segment will be all-electric, the VW electric triplets will only reduce demand for the competition (Peugeot 108, Citroen C1, Toyota AYGO and Renault Twingo).

        Now if we talk about the VW ID.3, that’s entirely a different story, because the VW Golf is the best selling car in Europe and a cheap ID.3 would hurt the sales.

      3. It is very unlikely basic price is making profit. The average selling price is probably around 10k euro.

    2. If they stop producing ICE Up!, Citigo and Mii, they should be able to produce as many EV up!,Citigo and Mii, but the question may be the number of batteries they expect to need for the cars.
      I think it becomes more an more clear that Volkswagen first wants to sell EV in 2020, we have to wait for the ID.3 until next year and I haven’t heard about any e-up! 2.0, Citigo-e or Mii electric before the beginning of 2020 at the earliest. If they stop producing ICE versions soon they plan to produce EVs for half a year before starting to deliver? They don’t even have any excuse about that it is a new car as they e-up! has been available for many years and the EV version isn’t much different from the current ICE. So, why are they not delivering EV versions now or at least soon, why do we have to wait until 2020?

      1. 2020 is when new EU emissions standards/fines go into effect…

      2. That’s right.

        “A phase-in period will also apply to the target of 95 g/km. In 2020, the emission targets will apply for each manufacturer’s 95% least emitting new cars. From 2021 on, the average emissions of all newly registered cars of a manufacturer will have to be below the target.”
        Moreover…
        “From 2019 on, the penalty will be €95 for each g/km of target exceedance.”

        https://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/transport/vehicles/cars_en

      3. I know why they are not starting to deliver before 2020, I just think it would be nice if they would admit that. The are going to produce more BEV because they need to lower the average CO2 emissions of their vehicles to avoid penalty costs, not because they want to save the planet or the Paris Agreement or what they else claim as novel reasons.
        Maybe Hyundai/Kia also all of a sudden will have more production capacity.
        Maybe 2020 will become the breakthrough year for the BEV, not because of a technical breakthrough, but simply because of EU legislature (CO2 penalties).

  4. So far since the presentation of the citigoe iv and the mii electric I have heard nothing and they are suppose to start selling it in less then 3 weeks. Have had chatting conversation withe the company’s, put me up for email information and yesterday I was in talking to a Skoda dealer. They have no new information what so ever. I most say that I think the VW group is still stuck in the Diesel mud and don’t what to sell any of this small affordable BEVs

    1. Three weeks, where do you live? I heard that any of the three would be available from next year (next spring) at the earliest.

      1. Sweden, here is the pressrelease from Seat Sweden stating sell start in September https://via.tt.se/pressmeddelande/seat-lanserar-mii-electric-markets-forsta-helelektriska-bil?publisherId=1999215&releaseId=3258035

        Deliveries are expected late 2019 or early 2020, so for the WV group to meet the emission for 2020 I guess early 2020 deliveries, witch is fine for me.

        A leak on pricing for the Skoda citigoe IV came out yesterday via google adds in Sweden 154700 SEK, (around € 15k) probably after incentives but still much cheaper than I was expecting. But nothing confirmed.

        https://www.mestmotor.se/recharge/artiklar/nyheter/20190814/priset-pa-skoda-citigoe-iv-avslojat/

      2. A couple of month ago Pedro had an article about the new triplets with a link to a German website where one “insider” claimed that the electric VW up and Skoda Citigo would start production 10/2019, and the Seat Mii electric the month after.
        https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=33479

        If the new triplets aren’t produced yet you will not be able to receive them. Maybe they start reservation in September, but I would assume that you have to wait until at least next year. FDM, the Danish car owners club wrote that the Skoda Citigo will be available from March 2020 and maybe you can get it earlier in Sweden, but I don’t think it will be this year.

        From a June article:
        SEAT Mii electric production will begin in Bratislava (Slovakia) in Q4 2019, with a market introduction starting from the very end of the year.

        Pre-sales of the SEAT Mii electric for the customers will start in September.

        And from an April article:
        Series production of the all-electric version of the ŠKODA CITIGO will start in the fourth quarter of 2019.

  5. Thanks for the link Lars
    The only thing I don’t understand is that you will have to wait until March in Denmark? In Norway they don’t seam to care about this car and on forum they speculate that there is less then 100 reservations for citigoe iv, seam like very small intresset in Sweden too. The VW-group is pumping ut massive amount of stuff around ID3. Who is going to buy the WV triplets? People that don’t need a car to be proud and like to do some easy calculation, not so many then 😉
    People that don’t need to be proud of there car don’t buy new cars. Maybe it is a different story in Denmark with your high car tax, it has at least bean like that in Norway, but now it seams like the Norwegians want newer an better BEVS.
    Or are they limiting production?

    1. Norway is a totally different market. We have to wait long for every BEV, On the Danish Volkswagen homepage they only write that the e-up is no longer available and a new will arrive in 2020, nothing more. Peugeot has nothing about the e-208 on their Danish homepage and the same is true for Opel and the Corsa-e. Skoda has a bit about the Citigo, but no price and I think no specific delivery dates. Seat has a bit about the Mii electric, but as far as I remember less than Skoda.
      That sounds strange, maybe people don’t like the fact that they do not know what the price will be and when it will be available. Maybe it is all the media about the ID.3 that is removing focus from the electric triplets.
      With an electric car you have to buy a new car because there are not many used BEVs and the old ones have low range. Actually currently BEVs are free of registration fee until the end of 2020 as long as they cost less than 400.000 DKK.
      I don’t think that any production numbers have been released, but depending on the price I think they triplets could become very attractive.

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