2018 Nissan Leaf sales recover in Japan

2018 Nissan Leaf sales in Japan

In Japan first deliveries of the new 2018 Nissan Leaf begun in October last year. In the debut month 3.629 units of both the new and outgoing models were sold in total, but in the following two months sales declined due to an inspection scandal.

Anyway, now inspection problems seem to be in the past and last month Nissan was able to sell 3.768 units of the Leaf in Japan – making a total of 11.615 units sold since the new model’s debut month. Furthermore, the Nissan Leaf was the 19th best selling passenger car in that country last month.

 

Now that first deliveries are also happening in Europe and the USA, it’ll be interesting to see which market will surpass the Japanese sale figures first.

Considering that in the USA Tesla is already delivering the Model 3, I think that the 2018 Nissan Leaf has better chances to succeed in Europe. What do you think?

 

Thanks again for the head ups Michał.

 

 

More info:

http://www.jada.or.jp/contents/data/ranking.html

http://ev-sales.blogspot.pt/search/label/Japan

This Post Has 14 Comments

  1. Looks like a record for Japan. Let’s look March sales maybe Nissan can achieve over 10000 Leafs globally that would be insane!

  2. In a few months, it should be interesting to plot orders/sales ratio. We could see if Nissan manufacturing lines in Japan can keep up with demand.

  3. Well as far as I remember US factory has bigest capacit. At least it had regarding the first generation. So if demand is high worldwide US is the place where they really can build huge numbers quickly. Ultimatly – after supply gap disapears – europe is probably biggest market. I’m also concerned that introduction of long range model might result in production hiccups and skew delivery patterns. I’am assuming that long range production will start in Japan(with cells from NK) in the fall of 2018. I still don’t know how are they going to handle two diffrent bateries – one with thermal menagement system – and how much of a challange it is going to be. And are they indeed going to mantain 40kwh model with current battery(might switch to LG chem’s as well).

    1. SK(South Korea) not NK:/

  4. Maybe Pedro knows something more. Do you think the 64 kWh battery cells are put together from LG chem with case or Nissan only buys the cells and put them in case with the TMS?
    As far as I know Renault for example only buys the cells.

    1. For warranty purposes LG Chem battery cells have to be protected by a LG Chem BMS.

      http://www.lgchem.com/global/vehicle-battery/car-batteries-Different/product-detail-PDEB0002

      LG Chem also requires that a TMS is used, but I think that they only define the minimal safety parameters (temperatures) and the TMS is built by each automaker.

      Buying the complete battery pack only makes sense (financially) for compliance electric cars – that are built in small volume.

      Anyway, with the same LG Chem battery cells Nissan could do the following:

      96s2p: 192 x 63 Ah x 3,7 V = 44,75 kWh (~41 kWh usable)
      96s3p: 288 x 63 Ah x 3,7 V = 67,13 kWh (~64 kWh usable)

      However I think it’s best to continue to make the 40 kWh pack with AESC battery cells. I don’t think that LG Chem can supply so many cells to make two different battery packs – for a electric car that will be produced in such high volume. No problem for a Hyundai Kona EV for example.

  5. It’ll be really interesting to see if these initial high sales number is a result of pent up demand or if they’re more sustainable numbers. I suspect the new Leaf will continue to do really well in Europe and Japan where there are no Bolts or model 3s to compete. Canada too, but that will partly depend on whether the Ontario provincial government survives the upcoming June election, as their conservative rivals will undoubtedly remove our generous rebates.

    If Nissan can keep up with demand they could sell 40,000+ in each of japan and Europe, so they have a shot at 100,000 in 2018. Actually maybe more if the 11,000 orders in Norway are any indication. Solid orders in other European countries could really bump that up.

    I’m not sure about the US, though. I’d guess about 30,000 for 2018. And I’m guessing Tesla will produce about 150,000 model 3s, so globally the M3 will be the overall sales leader, so the Leaf might be second place. The M3 dominating in the US, while the Leaf dominates in Europe and Japan.

    1. Also, it’ll be interesting to see how Nissan handles the transition to the e-plus battery. Will they hold back the launch until it’s actually in production, so as to keep 40kwh sales up? Will they lower the 40kwh price? Will the e-plus be a premium model? Will LG be able to keep up with demand?

      Something that I think would be really cool is if nissan designed the car with the ability to retrofit the 40kwh car with the 60kwh battery. Then you could buy the 40kwh now, and know you have the option to upgrade later, you wouldn’t have to wait for the 60kwh option to come out.

      1. I would not count on it. Nissan did not offer any upgrade to their 24kWh battery Leaf customer when they upgraded to the 30 kWh battery. The companies that did offer the option to upgrade the battery in their cars when new once were introduced didn’t really offer them at a good price. I think you have to wait for the 60 kWh battery Leaf before buying.

      2. you’re probably right, but it would be great if they did offer an upgrade path.

  6. Renault did offer a battery upgrade on their ZOE. Nissan is part of the same Renault-Nissan group, so if the Renault upgrade was a success they may have a look at it, but like everyone says the chances are very low as they never did it with previous Leaf models and using a different battery manufacturer may make the upgrade even more complicated.

    Knowing the chances are close to zero, I still think it would be great if they offered the upgrade. I bought the 40Kw version in October in Japan and although I am quite happy with the car as it is, I would appreciate the option to upgrade a few years down the line.

  7. Pedro, have you seen the youtube video in this thread?

    https://insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/batterygate-my2018-leaf.647/

    The 2018 Leaf owner does a test trip, and while it’s short on details (actual highway speeds, wind and weather, how much the heater was actually used) he does note the battery temperature at each charging stop.

    The outdoor temperature is only 9C, but battery temperature jumps quite a bit on the first DCFC, and by the time he’s on the second one, the car is already restricting charging due to high batter temperature to something like 22KW.

    This means the 40kwh Leaf can’t really be used for road trips, if you can only get one good DC charge session in.

  8. I knew that DCFC raised the temperature, but I was surprised by how much it rose on the first charge. It means that on a trip you’d have to settle for 22kw or less and at least 45 minutes on any DC sessions after the first one. That’s good to know though, as I think I might hold out for a TMS in my next EV.

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