Samsung SDI went to Beijing Motor Show

Samsung SDI at Beijing Motor Show
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sapcmc
5 years ago

Probably the Leaf 2 will come with LG batteries and great to see that both Samsung and LG are improving their range.

sapcmc
5 years ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

That is really stupid of them. On the very same group, joint-venture, no clue what to call that supposed alliance, not to share common parts and suppliers… stupidity and dumb fulness are the only words that come to mind.

Ralf K
5 years ago

>>What you you think? Did I missed something? Comment bellow.< Then 50 Ah is the same size as 37 Ah.
And 120Ah is the same size as 94Ah.

Actually, it would be nice if someone simply took a ruler with him to the exhibition and measured the actual cells’ lenght, width and height. These pics may then lack the nice ladies in the pictures but at least provide some valuable information. ๐Ÿ™‚

One more thing: e-Golf will use the 37 Ah cells beginning at the end of 2016/start of 2017, resulting in 36.6kWh. While they regard this a big improvement, look at what other can do!

Because meanwhile, Kreisel electric (Austria) will create battery packs for e-Golf with 55.7 kWh, proposing the same weight and dimensions of the whole pack (as the original 24.2kW made from 25Ah cells). Now go and figure out, what type of cells they will use instead of the Samsung cells! I guess, it’s cells of type 18650.

References:
http://ecomento.tv/2016/05/10/vw-elektroauto-zelltechnologie-entwickelt-sich-rasant-e-golf-erhaelt-mehr-reichweite/
http://ecomento.tv/2016/05/03/elektroauto-experte-kreisel-electric-batteriefabrik-oberoesterreich-bilder/

Ralf K
5 years ago
Reply to  Pedro Lima

JFTR: Sanyo is a sub-company of Panasonic since 2011.

And while Samsung and LG may have similar cells, in case Tesla wants to switch the supplier, they may still face a problem with the sheer amount of 18650 cells that Tesla requires for Model S/X. Or with the amount of 20700 cells for Model 3. Therefore a true switch of the battery supplier will require quite some lead time and capacity planning in the supply chain. Tesla can however easily _add_ small or medium quantities of cells from other battery vendors in case this may be required at a later point in time.