150 kW CCS chargers are an opportunity for Tesla Motors

GOFAST 150 kW multi standard fast charger

 

Good things are happening.

 

The first GOFAST 150 kW multi standard fast charger has been active since August, 2016 in Switzerland and many more will come. By 2018 GOFAST network should be present in 100 locations.

 

GOFAST stations charging possibilities

 

But how can Tesla Motors take advantage from this?

Currently Tesla’s electric cars are the only ones that can charge at such high rates, unfortunately they can only do it in Tesla’s proprietary Superchargers.

Until now CCS and CHAdeMO charging stations were seen by Tesla as slow and unpractical, but with 150 kW units things get interesting.

How difficult would it be to make Tesla’s cars compatible with these new 150 kW – non proprietary standards – fast chargers?

The European cars, not much. Tesla’s European cars already have the standard Type 2 inlet.

 

Tesla Model S Type 2 inlet

 

Tesla Motors is the only automaker to use the Type 2 advantages fully, because it can handle AC and DC current. While other carmakers use the Type 2 standard only for AC current and have to use the Combo 2 for DC. If Tesla Motors decides to use the 150 kW CCS chargers in Europe, it just needs to add two DC dedicated pins to the charging inlet and a firmware upgrade.

 

CCS specification

 

Electric cars with the CHAdeMO standard always require two inlets, one for AC and other for DC current. So the use of this standard in Tesla cars will remain possible only with an adapter. I don’t see Tesla adding a CHAdeMO inlet to its cars.

 

Tesla Motors CHAdeMO adapter

 

Tesla Motors company knows that CHAdeMO is a dying standard, this is why on 24th of February 2016 it became a member of CharIN association, responsible for the expansion of the CCS standard worldwide.

 

Replacing the Type 2 inlet with Combo 2, would make Tesla’s electric cars expansion a lot easier in Europe. Tesla’s drivers would continue to be able to charge in the Superchargers for “free” but get the possibility to use the CCS chargers when needed.

Having a Tesla car taking two hours to charge in a 50 kW charging station might annoy many people, but the introduction of 150 kW CCS chargers solves the problem. This is why the Combo 2 inlet in Tesla cars makes much more sense now than then.

I’ll be surprised if Tesla Motors doesn’t use the 100D variants and the Model 3 launch opportunity to add the Combo 2 inlets to its European cars. Maybe even before that since European sales have been disappointing.

 

What do you think? How much would the CCS standard support help Tesla’s sales in Europe?

 

 

More info:

http://www.charinev.org/ccs-at-a-glance/ccs-specification/

http://www.charinev.org/news-detail/news/charin-e-v-welcomes-member-tesla-motors/

http://www.gofastcharge.com/en/

http://shop.teslamotors.com/products/chademo-adapter

Pedro Lima

More than natural resources, are wasted human resources that bothers me the most. That’s why I’m a strong advocate of a society based on cooperation, not competition, that helps every individual to reach his full potential so that he can contribute back to society. “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”.

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10 Responses

  1. Yogurt says:

    I dont know if CCS will help Teslas sales in Europe or not but I think it might be smart for Tesla to make the model 3 CCS only unless the buyer pays 2k or so for the supercharger access and after the model 3 is out for a year to do the same with S and X otherwise the supercharger network could get overloaded…
    I dont think Tesla wants to be in the charging business they just realized that they had to be in that business…

    • Terawatt says:

      IMO they would do much better to introduce paid charging with Model 3. Prepaid charging for life is a model that encourages charging as much as you can at Superchargers, not as little as you need to – the exact opposite of what’s needed. It should be priced per minute and set just high enough to make it more expensive than at-home charging. Then it would still give cheap long-distance travel – far below fossil fuels per mile – but mean that people who live near or otherwise often drive past superchargers won’t use them just to get free energy.

  2. orinoco says:

    CCS is ugly and unsmart. Public CCS charging station have one or two charging places. In contrast: Tesla’s supercharger only need the Type 2 slot for 120kW, more than enough IMHO. And – most of all – superchargers provide at least 8 charging places and they are located in strategic locations. It’s much more convenient to have a few, central supercharger stations than many single CCS-stations. But CCS and the traditional automakers don’t want the electric car revolution. That’s what makes all thoughts about CCS obsolete.
    BTW Tesla keeps the supercharger standard open to other carmakers, but they just don’t want smart electric cars and smart charging and Tesla is the black sheep.

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    • Pedro Lima says:

      I would also prefer that the Type 2 standard was chosen by the EU as the official standard for both AC and DC. But sometimes we have to adapt to our environment, that’s why I think supporting Superchargers and CCS chargers would be good for Tesla.

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      • Reason077 says:

        The problem with using Type 2 for DC is that it tops out around 120kW or so. There isn’t much room to go faster than that because the conductors simply aren’t big enough to support that kind of DC current.

        CCS, on the other hand, has been future-proofed. It can support 150kW already today, and is capable of supporting 300kW and beyond in the future.

        The good thing is, in Europe, Tesla doesn’t need to choose or make a painful transition. They can produce cars in the future (hopefully starting with the Model 3) that support both CCS *and* existing Superchargers.

  3. Terawatt says:

    I would happily bet against you on the 100D getting CCS at introduction. There is no room for it where the inlet is currently placed, and that means it won’t be as easy as you think. Consider the impact on production of modifying the layout of components and cables – it will probably change the order things need to be installed in! If they do this they likely need to move the inlet for US cars as well, to reduce the difference between the cars. Unless the inlet itself is much more costly than that of the modified Type 2, I also think there’s no good reason not to offer CCS capability in the US as well. It is less useful there now, but it does help to future-proof the car for very little additional cost.

    I hope the Model 3 gets it. But I suspect Tesla won’t go this way. Instead, I think a CCS adapter is coming. As far as I understand such an adapter need not do much more than connect all the pins in the inlet, since CCS uses the same protocol. If correct, the CCS adapter is just a passive bundle of cables, which should make it a bit cheaper than the CHAdeMO adapter (at least to develop – electronic chips are dirt cheap).

  4. Juanmax says:

    IMHO Model 3 should get CCS as well. In Europe it is the standard and will be widely available (make take years, though). It also allows way more than 150kW in theory, which will also come.

    So future proofing a Model3 with CCS will make it a killer car in Europe. Tesla won’t be able to build enough the next 5 years!

    I know how bad it is to be tight to Tesla standard (monster plug from Roadster…) and not be able to enjoy the future.

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